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    Hi all, appreciate the interest and rationale for wanting to be able to combine and hide line items on an invoice for sending to your clients, while having your usual detail tracked on the invoice in Xero.

    While this may be a function we look to explore in the long-term we want to be upfront that this is not something we’ll be developing in the near term. Our team is focussed on other key priorities right now such as improvements to invoice branding and getting paid.

    If you want to hide all line item details, you can create a custom invoice theme where you can decide which data fields appear on the PDF invoice. For example to print only the Subtotal and no line items.

    However we’re aware that in other cases you want to be able to show some line items and not others. We’ll leave this idea open…

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Long term / short term? I’ve been waiting for more than 10 years.
    Having reset the voting clocks some time ago / the number of votes shown doesn’t truly represent the need for this.
    Without it - management reporting / sales analysis is painfully limited.
    No doubt as with other topics, there are also many other vote headers essentially for the same thing - diluting the number of votes seen for this item.

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    I've been using Xero for nearly 10 years and it was a requested item from before my time.....none of my 10 original (now washed away..) votes have been satisfied.

    I still can't let my purchase ledger clerk run her own aged creditors etc reports as she'll also have access other reports showing staff payroll, company profit, director's accounts etc. So much for progress. So much for privacy & data protection.

    The only things that change at Xero are the things that bring in more money.

    More recently the software has gone backwards even, removing the feature that automatically update email contact info on repeating invoices if a contact info was changed.....we now have to do this ourselves manually and EVEN TICK A BOX CONFIRMING THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS before the changed record will save!!!!!! what???!!! Where's the efficiency in this? Didn't ask us if we wanted this either did they?..

    I rant. Back to tax work...

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    For allbut the simplest of businesses, Xero’s ability to provide meaningful sales reporting falls totally short of it’s ability to market & sell it’s software.
    This issue has been around for YEARS, & like many other ‘ideas’, Xero has shown no interest, investing instead in other more profitable revenue streams & partner integrations. Some features (auto updating of repeating invoices when contact email addresses are updated), have even been ‘stealthily’ removed!
    To say only 43 people support this idea is ludicrous & inaccurate after 8 yrs or so (I kid not) of receiving updates & comments on this.
    Quickbooks do it - but the market leader can’t?!!! Or won’t.

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    No & no surprise.

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Nope - nothing I've ver voted for has been implemented. Waste of time - people I know don't give this 'voting' etc etc the time of day. Too busy implementing workarounds....

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    This is second to top of my desperately wished for , for many YEARS now, along with access options in the reporting module reporting for our practice & client data sets. (Oddly, I don't need/want our sales ledger or purchase ledger clerk to see what other staff, directors etc etc earn or what the company's profit is/isn't this month....)

    Back to the issue - yes, I need granular structure in my invoices for internal reporting, but a simple subtotalled for example invoice to issue to clients. I need both, from the same invoice, with no faffing or trendy 'workarounds'.
    Ever more apps, good revenue stream for Xero, but the product stays fundamentally the same.
    But at least we can see 10 instead of 8 items in the bank feed screen now. That was jaw dropping disappointment after all the hype.

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  2. 28 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    PS. There are multiple, requests for 'pick n mix' user access options, all spread out, and the record was reset to NIL some years ago. There are/have been thousands of votes & my clients (& me) need this to be sorted out, but Xero have made it clear in the past it's not easy, and there fore not even a remote priority. Hence, I point his out to new clients nowadays, and they frequently don't choose Xero, oddly.

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Don't hold your breath.
    Been waiting on this since Xero was (badly) conceived. Just share everything, with everyone, ignoring GDPR etc or be prepared to drop everything you do as a business owner/manager to login & run & print reports for your staff at their bequest. ;-)

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  3. 200 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    ........ho hum. I've lost track of how many times I've voted on a 'new stream' for this kind of feature that all other leading accounting softwares have.

    This has been on the menu for more than 10 years now, from before I started using Xero. It's an unbelievable & fundamental hole right in the middle of this platform that compromises GDPR and prevents business departments functioning separately/efficiently. I don't think Xero can do anything about it as the current set up is totally embedded in the very original platform, and to even introduce separate 'mini' reporting access modules or areas as add on isn't on the table. And besides, they'd get no extra income for all that effort. Rather produce something new & 'buzzy', to justify year on year price increases.

    Said with intended sarcasm - why shouldn't every staff member have access to every bank payment that the business makes? Including payments of all kinds to directors, wage payments to the guy sitting opposite, their manager, HMRC, .....I wonder if staff at Xero have the same access to the whole companies C of A, reports and banking information...suppliers and client information.......loans, taxes, debts, liabilities, assets.....I doubt it.

    It's an unbelievable situation & a sad reflection of many big businesses run today. Allowing us to vent our frustration here is as good as it gets.
    Xero have commented on very rare occasion in the past, but only to say 'not happening now or in the forseeable future'. I'd love to be corrected on that.

    There are several different voting opportunities covering this issue - and a revamp & resetting of the system a few years ago cleared a lot of vote history out, on this & other issues. I feel sure the number of people needing this or blissfully unaware of what their staff can see, is far higher than this counter would indicate.

    Don't hold your breath.

    At least it's beautiful.

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  4. 31 votes

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    Hi team, to export a list of all Tracking categories in your org, you may find the Tracking Summary report of use to you here. Alternatively, you could run the Account Transactions report and Summarise by the Tracking category. 

    The one caveat here for both reports is that they'll only show a list of the tracking options that have been used within the date range the report is run. 

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  5. 143 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Yes - I am scrolling in my sleep.

    Can't abide the amount of scrolling that is necessary when using Xero - losing headers, looking for navigation buttons. What will happen when we can't use Xero anymore for (amongst other reasons) we all start suffering with early onset arthritis?!

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  6. 40 votes

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    Thanks for your feedback on the thread. Though not useful for all, we did bring attention to the reports that could help some people in the forums here. 

    We'll continue to consider this and other ideas for customer statements as the platform evolves. 

    Again not a full resolve but another option that could be handy for some is the inclusion of the Outstanding bills link when sending individual invoices to your customers. Through this, persons of a contact will be able to view and get detail of the invoices they have outstanding with you at any given time. 

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Here here!!

    We want functional over beautiful.

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  7. 110 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    GDPR issues aside, Xero payroll....?
    Try Bright Pay. With employee & employer portal. Integrates with all main softwares Including Xero (bar employment allowance figs oddly), and MODULR if needed. Good for small practices & bureaus, otherwise SAGE.....

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  8. 8 votes

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    This is really useful to know, thanks Josh - Though we don't have immediate plans for change around this, we really appreciate you sharing the detail of how you'd see this permissions working best for you. We'll keep an eye across this one here, and let you know if there are any updates.

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Xero - Isn't it pretty obvious? Anything would be better than access to pretty much EVERYTHING, as things have stood since Xero was invented.
    Sorry to be rude, but you do understand accounting right? & GDPR yeah?
    Let me help - Purchase ledger clerk needs access to supplier contacts, bill processing, supplier reports, aged creditor reports, bills reports, purchase day book reports, bill production, quotes, purchase orders, bank supplier payments, refunds, credit notes and .........
    Purchase ledger clerk DOESN'T NEED and NOR SHOULD SHOULD HAVE ACCESS to staff pay & personal information, the director's dividends & tax information, the companies balance sheet, staff bonuses, HMRC arrears (or otherwise), investments, how much the company spent on the last client event, or the christmas party, or the computers, Joe's redundancy payment (oh, did I let the cat out of the bag or should I call it something else in Xero so no one knows, HMRC won't mind....)..........do you really need me to go on?......
    Perhaps some one else could be kind enough to waste some of their time explaining what the sales ledger clerk needs. or what the treasurer or in house accountant needs - which surprisingly is where the 'access all areas' should sit.
    A waterfall access level approach with a tickbox list (just like staff access in MY XERO - (miss that - it was good and clear)....I've seen this before, oh yes, in SAGE. Works a treat. Easy. Clear. Transparent.
    I have to give some staff access to EVERYTHING and freeze out others which not only causes causes offence, but also inconvenience to those that have to be disrupted in their own work to provide reports to other staff.
    If the current reporting structure/platform can't be changed, why not build a suite of smaller reporting modules - task or job role specific??
    It's stunning that this FLOOR exists in the first place, and beyond belief that in more than 10 years, and despite GDPR, and many many requests in the old & new voting system, NOTHING, EVER, has changed in this regard, or other items I've voted for.....

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  9. 40 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Xero - Isn't it pretty obvious? Anything would be better than access to pretty much EVERYTHING, as things have stood since Xero was invented.
    Sorry to be rude, but you do understand accounting right? & GDPR yeah?
    Let me help - Purchase ledger clerk needs access to supplier contacts, bill processing, supplier reports, aged creditor reports, bills reports, purchase day book reports, bill production, quotes, purchase orders, bank supplier payments, refunds, credit notes and .........
    Purchase ledger clerk DOESN'T NEED and NOR SHOULD SHOULD HAVE ACCESS to staff pay & personal information, the director's dividends & tax information, the companies balance sheet, staff bonuses, HMRC arrears (or otherwise), investments, how much the company spent on the last client event, or the christmas party, or the computers, Joe's redundancy payment (oh, did I let the cat out of the bag or should I call it something else in Xero so no one knows, HMRC won't mind....)..........do you really need me to go on?......
    Perhaps some one else could be kind enough to waste some of their time explaining what the sales ledger clerk needs. or what the treasurer or in house accountant needs - which surprisingly is where the 'access all areas' should sit.
    A waterfall access level approach with a tickbox list (just like staff access in MY XERO - (miss that - it was good and clear)....I've seen this before, oh yes, in SAGE. Works a treat. Easy. Clear. Transparent.
    I have to give some staff access to EVERYTHING and freeze out others which not only causes causes offence, but also inconvenience to those that have to be disrupted in their own work to provide reports to other staff.
    If the current reporting structure/platform can't be changed, why not build a suite of smaller reporting modules - task or job role specific??
    It's stunning that this FLOOR exists in the first place, and beyond belief that in more than 10 years, and despite GDPR, and many many requests in the old & new voting system, NOTHING, EVER, has changed in this regard, or other items I've voted for.....

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  10. 28 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Xero - Isn't it pretty obvious? Anything would be better than access to pretty much EVERYTHING, as things have stood since Xero was invented.
    Sorry to be rude, but you do understand accounting right? & GDPR yeah?
    Let me help - Purchase ledger clerk needs access to supplier contacts, bill processing, supplier reports, aged creditor reports, bills reports, purchase day book reports, bill production, quotes, purchase orders, bank supplier payments, refunds, credit notes and .........
    Purchase ledger clerk DOESN'T NEED and NOR SHOULD SHOULD HAVE ACCESS to staff pay & personal information, the director's dividends & tax information, the companies balance sheet, staff bonuses, HMRC arrears (or otherwise), investments, how much the company spent on the last client event, or the christmas party, or the computers, Joe's redundancy payment (oh, did I let the cat out of the bag or should I call it something else in Xero so no one knows, HMRC won't mind....)..........do you really need me to go on?......
    Perhaps some one else could be kind enough to waste some of their time explaining what the sales ledger clerk needs. or what the treasurer or in house accountant needs - which surprisingly is where the 'access all areas' should sit.
    A waterfall access level approach with a tickbox list (just like staff access in MY XERO - (miss that - it was good and clear)....I've seen this before, oh yes, in SAGE. Works a treat. Easy. Clear. Transparent.
    I have to give some staff access to EVERYTHING and freeze out others which not only causes causes offence, but also inconvenience to those that have to be disrupted in their own work to provide reports to other staff.
    If the current reporting structure/platform can't be changed, why not build a suite of smaller reporting modules - task or job role specific??
    It's stunning that this FLOOR exists in the first place, and beyond belief that in more than 10 years, and despite GDPR, and many many requests in the old & new voting system, NOTHING, EVER, has changed in this regard, or other items I've voted for.....

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  11. 47 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Xero - Isn't it pretty obvious? Anything would be better than access to pretty much EVERYTHING, as things have stood since Xero was invented.
    Sorry to be rude, but you do understand accounting right? & GDPR yeah?
    Let me help - Purchase ledger clerk needs access to supplier contacts, bill processing, supplier reports, aged creditor reports, bills reports, purchase day book reports, bill production, quotes, purchase orders, bank supplier payments, refunds, credit notes and .........
    Purchase ledger clerk DOESN'T NEED and NOR SHOULD SHOULD HAVE ACCESS to staff pay & personal information, the director's dividends & tax information, the companies balance sheet, staff bonuses, HMRC arrears (or otherwise), investments, how much the company spent on the last client event, or the christmas party, or the computers, Joe's redundancy payment (oh, did I let the cat out of the bag or should I call it something else in Xero so no one knows, HMRC won't mind....)..........do you really need me to go on?......
    Perhaps some one else could be kind enough to waste some of their time explaining what the sales ledger clerk needs. or what the treasurer or in house accountant needs - which surprisingly is where the 'access all areas' should sit.
    A waterfall access level approach with a tickbox list (just like staff access in MY XERO - (miss that - it was good and clear)....I've seen this before, oh yes, in SAGE. Works a treat. Easy. Clear. Transparent.
    I have to give some staff access to EVERYTHING and freeze out others which not only causes causes offence, but also inconvenience to those that have to be disrupted in their own work to provide reports to other staff.
    If the current reporting structure/platform can't be changed, why not build a suite of smaller reporting modules - task or job role specific??
    It's stunning that this FLOOR exists in the first place, and beyond belief that in more than 10 years, and despite GDPR, and many many requests in the old & new voting system, NOTHING, EVER, has changed in this regard, or other items I've voted for.....

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  12. 146 votes

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    Lorraine Adams commented  · 

    Client is used to using & needs Balance Sheet Budget. Another fail. I wonder how many years this will take.....back to the spreadsheets.

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  13. 27 votes

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    Hi everyone, our product team have released their first update to the history and notes of new invoicing where you can now see more detail of the change that's been made such as where an issue or due date has been edited or the amount of the invoice has changed. 

    We have more improvements planned for new invoicing history and notes and I'll share more as this comes, here. 

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