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  1. 85 votes

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    Hi team, thanks for sharing detail of the value in this idea in the ways you invoice.

    We've just released a new line item grid in invoicing which includes the ability to manually add blank rows and shift these to where you're like them placed in your invoice.

    That said, I want to be transparent in how this works - When you save your invoice any blank lines will be removed. So, if you'd like blank lines to help break your invoice into sections, you'll need to enter a character in the Description field of the blank line. Even a full stop '.' or dash '-' would suffice. 

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    A big thanks to Olga who brought this idea to my attention via the new invoicing disaster discussion. The blank character input is a genius idea, thank you Ben. I've found the keyboard shortcut to it on windows:

    Hold alt, then type 0173, release alt.

    This is very handy for me as I'm always using alt+0176 to produce the ° symbol in my work. Remembering alt+0173 will be easy!

    I wish the people working at Xero has half the initiative of Olga or Ben, then we wouldn't be in this mess!

  2. 102 votes

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    Hi everyone, we wanted to return and give you an update here. As mentioned in our last post - we want to be forth right that we don't have any plans to remove 'Powered by Xero' from emails sent from Xero, with intentional purpose and based on findings from interactions we can see having true benefit to customers in getting paid faster. 

    That said, we appreciate the feedback we've received and have made changes since this was initially raised to reduce the size of the footer where this is shown and have removed the hyperlink to xero.com. We will continue to develop the invoice email to continue to drive improvements for our customers and the ways you receive payments.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    I am also manually downloading the pdf and sending it via our own mail client to avoid the Xero branding. The Xero branded emails makes it look like I'm using a free software solution to cut costs. It's not a good look.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    I've been sending emails manually since the start of the year to avoid advertising Xero to my customers. Today I sent a test invoice to myself through Xero to see if anything had changed for the better.

    Nope.

    My logo is now microscopic at the top, and there are 2 massive view online buttons, and a pay online link which divert attention from my bank details (which would be my preferred method of payment, no card fees!)

    Looks like I'll continue to be manually sending emails with attachments for the foreseeable.

    Every change for the worse, every price increase, pushes me closer to abandoning Xero. That would be such a shame as it was so good a couple of years ago!

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    Well played Xero. You've "added legitimacy" to spam emails lmao.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    And what metric did you use do decide that 'engagement' increased? What do you call 'engagement'?

    Do you have data to show that fewer people are using Xero to send invoices because I am now doing it manually until I can switch to another platform.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    I was too late raising this with support, I've received this:

    "The 'Powered by Xero' footer on emails was previously released as a trial so some customer could opt out.

    However, this has now been fully released to all organisations so it is not currently possible to remove it.

    We recommend voting and adding your thoughts to our products ideas page. This is where our product team review your ideas for possible future features in Xero."

    They've made it live and permanent despite all the feedback here. This isn't the first time they've ignored their customer's feedback on unnecessary changes. I doubt it will be the last.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    I'm now downloading the PDF and sending it as an attachment via the normal email. Everything is taking longer to do, which is par for the course these days with these wonderful updates they keep forcing on us.

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    I didn't agree to give free advertising for Xero. You can keep the logo in the emails if I can get 50% off the monthly subscription.

  3. 1,261 votes

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    Hi community, we understand your needs in this feature and want to assure you were taking on board all your feedback. 

    As many of you accustom to this idea will know, multiple addresses requires a complex solution. It's been something we’ve been moving towards for some time and we’ve done a lot of back end work that will allow us to bring it to you in the future. 

    We have 12 different products within Xero that rely on contact data, as well as many of our app partners. This means that contacts need to seamlessly flow across technology, products and all connections on Xero. And that’s exactly what we’ve been working on. 

    One of the reasons we announced the retirement of classic invoicing is because many of the features being asked for, just can’t be brought into classic invoicing. The old technology has too many technology limitations to enable this.…

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    Although this idea thread goes back to 2022, multiple delivery addresses is something which has been asked for now for over a decade.

    You are all shouting into the void, Xero is now in the part of the product cycle where they are removing features, not adding them.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    @Martin you'll find many standard features missing in Xero vs Sage, multiple addresses is one whichever has been requested for over 10 years.

    You'd be better off sticking with Sage.

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  4. 161 votes

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    Hi everyone, we appreciate your continued input and feedback on this feature here. Being able to copy to purchase orders and bills is something our team are monitoring feedback of closely and very much across the this idea, however there are a few other priority pieces of work that are currently of focus.

    Right now, it is still possible to copy an invoice to a purchase order or bill from the list views(Draft, Awaiting approval, Awaiting Payment or Paid tabs). You'll find you can select the invoice/s and click 'Copy to...' - You can find out more detail and ways of doing things within new invoicing through our guide on Xero Central.

    We'll keep you in the know here of any progress or updates for this feature.

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  5. 105 votes

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    Hi everyone, we appreciate the interest his idea has received. Introducing the ability to add a discount amount was highly requested by our community. We recognise for customers that discount by % this means you'll need to enter a % symbol where y ou wouldn't have done so before.

    With quite a few items drawing our teams attention at present we want to be upfront that developing a default option for discounts isn't in the pipeline atm. This is something we'll keep reviewing and consider as a future improvement in this space. If there is any change or progress around this I'll let you know on the idea, here.

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    I put this in one of the general new invoicing moan topics, but I'll also put it here as it is relevant. You could code a toggle to switch between currency and discount, see the attached example. You can have this idea for free.

    As you keep saying that the new invoicing platform allows you to more easily add new features going forward this shouldn't take long to implement.

    Unless you've been lying about the new invoicing platform...

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  6. 94 votes

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    Hi community, I’d like to share the new Xero Central page for new invoicing that we noted was coming. 

    Along with updates to individual ideas on the site here, this page will become the one source for key feature rollouts including:

    • what’s available in new invoicing right now,
    • timelines for features and enhancements going live in new invoicing, as well as
    • a comparison table between the classic and newer versions of invoicing.

    We'll be updating this page regularly.

    Remember, you can keep switching between the two products between now and September. Thanks

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    If 3 out of every 10 people told me my product wasn't good I'd be horrified. I certainly wouldn't be patting myself on the back for a job well done.

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  7. 13 votes

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    Jonathan Loake commented  · 

    It's like they're actively looking for things which work well in order to ruin in it for everyone. I'm used to every new xero update to be worse than what came before it, but now they've managed to get their incompetent hands on stripe!

    Did you like having everything all on one Stripe account? Of course you did, it is the simplest solution. Who is it benefiting now having to look for transactions on 2 different accounts?

    Xero will probably do a drive-by gaslighting reply assuring us that the change is now somehow faster and more secure.

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  8. 72 votes

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