AU Payroll - Include commission & bonuses calculation on Schedule 5
Please fix the Schedule 5 PAYG calculation to include YTD commissions and bonuses as well as ordinary earnings. This is causing issues with tax not calculating automatically because the employee's only form of income is from commissions (real estate industry) and they are forced to report it under commissions for STP Phase 2 yet the calculation things they have $0 YTD earnings.
Hi everyone, thanks for your feedback on Schedule 5 calculations for commissions and bonuses. We appreciate you explaining how important this is for commission-based industries where commission is often the primary income.
Currently Xero payroll requires regular earnings to calculate Schedule 5 tax. We understand the current setup requires manual workarounds when employees have commission-only income.
Our product team has reviewed this idea and moved it to Accepted so it can be formally considered in future planning cycles. We'll keep you updated as things progress.
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Rebecca Cutler
commented
Suggestion - New category of deductions for pre-tax Bonus Salary Sacrifice Items linked to Schedule 5 Tax scales.
Bonus payments use Schedule 5 to calculate tax and therefore the current salary sacrifice deductions as they are now do not make the necessary reduction in tax payable as they are linked to other PAYGW Tax rates. It would also prompt peoples understanding/awareness that this situation is occurring & that not all Salary Sacrifice Deductions work how you would expect. -
Cassandra Burr
commented
I have a client with a weekly incentive that needs to go through as Bonus and Commission, and needs to use the regular PAYG tables. The work around of 'manually adjust the tax' is not really appropriate, as it's a large payroll and already takes a substantial amount of time to process without this extra step.
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James Gorrie
commented
I agree with this - Xero needs to have an option to report pay items as 'Bonuses and Commissions' through STP but still calculate PAYG using the standard calculations
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Lara Crowdey
commented
This is critical. An earnings category for commission paid within a single pay period that attaches to the standard PAYG Withholding tables is a must for basic tax compliance. Manually calculating this to override Xero's calculation every week is time consuming and costly to our business. This is a basic payroll matter that should be addressed asap.
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Lara Crowdey
commented
Also add an Earnings category for commission paid in a single pay period, which per the ATO must use the standard PAYG withholding tax tables.
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Lalaine Hernandez
commented
If the commission is for a specific single pay period and it's their only source of income, should it not be computed using the standard PAYG withholding tax table? And not the PAYG on Schedule 5? Please refer to the ATO statement below:
If a commission, bonus or similar payment relates to work your employee performed for more than one pay period (or for an undefined period), calculate withholding by applying either Method A or Method B(ii).
Do not use this schedule for payments for a single pay period.
If the commission, bonus or similar payment relates to work your employee performed in a single pay period (for example, a week, a fortnight or a month) the amount is added to all their other earnings for the current period. Withholding is then calculated using the standard PAYG withholding tax tables.
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Kate Flower
commented
Completely agree with this. We work with a number of real estate clients and commission is their only income yet Xero will not automatically calculate the withholding based on schedule 5 because they have no OTE. Please update this Xero!
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Sonia Partridge
commented
Hi Xero
Tax commissions paid using the regular PAYG tax table is extremely critical for my business when completing weekly payruns.
I have 20 employees that receive bonuses and commissions of different amounts each week and currently I need to complete a manual adjustment for each and every employee!
Under the ATO ruling, if Bonuses and commissions are paid on a weekly basis, as they are with our business, then they need to be taxed using PAYG tables, not Schedule 5.
By having to manual adjust each pay each and every week is extremely time consuming and extremely frustrating.
Is it possible when setting up our bonuses and commissions under STP2 that we have a choice (box to tick) of whether they are to be taxed using PAYG method or Schedule 5?
It would be very much appreciated if you can find a solution for this issue asap.
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Karen Makrikostas
commented
Absolutely agree with Lydia Wilson's post - this is a major nightmare with the introduction of STP2. Back to manual calculations in 2023?!
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Suzi Silvester
commented
Hi Xero,
This is absolutely critical. I have a client that pays bonus's and commissions to 20+ employees every week and doing manual tax adjustment is extremely time consuming. As these bonuses and commissions related to a single pay period tax needs to be calculated using the standard PAYG withholding tax table as per ATO ruling.
When you add a bonus and commission pay category in Xero can we please have an option there to select the standard PAYG withholding tax table OR schedule 5.
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Christine Marshall
commented
Hi Xero. Could you please treat this as an urgent compliance requirement? Up until STP2 Xero have made my payrolls easy compared with some other software. Since STP2 I have had this significant compliance issue. It is not ideal to have to manually change the tax on commission only employees every pay run. I provide bookkeeping services to dental practices where this is a common situation. Looking forward to a solution.
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Suzanne Jewry
commented
I tolerated having to amend PAYG WH every pay with the hope that the problem would be resolved but the problem continues. I know that others have complained about this multiple times in the Xero Bookkeepers Facebook Group.
We need this changed so that employees that receive commission for a single pay period can be taxed at regular rates rather than Schedule 5 as per ATO advice. -
Freya Pieroz
commented
Clarification: you're asking for the ability to tax commissions paid every pay period using the regular tax table instead of table 5. They still need to be reported as commissions under STP2, so they can't be reported as an ordinary hours pay item.
That is: if an employee is paid their regular pay monthly, and received commissions relating only to that month, then it is currently being taxed as if they were being paid their regular pay weekly with commissions paid monthly, which is not as per ATO guidelines and therefore can potentially lead to withholding the incorrect amount of tax.
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Sandie Royle
commented
This is not an idea; it is a requirement, Xero.
At present, all pay types classified as commissions are being taxed as follows: "The method for Schedule 5 in Xero, calculates the PAYG withholding amount by averaging all additional payments made in the current financial year, over the number of pay periods in a financial year, and applying that to the average total earnings to date".If commissions are paid every month, they should not be taxed in this manner, as per this ATO web page which says "Do not use this schedule for payments for a single pay period".
Xero needs an additional py type for monthly commissions.
"If the commission, bonus or similar payment relates to work your employee performed in a single pay period (for example, a week, a fortnight or a month) the amount is added to all their other earnings for the current period. Withholding is then calculated using the standard PAYG withholding tax tables."
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Patrick Mead
commented
Agree, this needs to be fixed immediately as it is going to cause huge issues for employers and employees in any commission based industries from a payroll standpoint.