Practice Manager - Regular syncing of "Clients" to Xero Blue "Contacts"
The current sync of "clients" from XPM to "contacts" of the practice Xero Blue file only updates when an invoice is sent across.
Surely this could be made into an immediate sync, or at the very least an overnight sync?
Given XPM doesn't integrate with a whole lot of software and doesn't integrate with Zapier, many add-ons practices use are linked with the Xero Blue file and require that data to be accurate. Debtor collection software for example, marketing software, etc, all require contact details to be accurate, and if clients change details, there can be a large delay before it passes through.
Hi everyone 👋 thanks for your feedback around the sync between Xero Practice Manager (XPM) and Xero Blue.
You may have heard our Xero’s practice tools are evolving into one seamless platform with Xero Partner Hub. With focus on this new hub at present we want to be open that there are no changes for the sync between Client in practice tools and Contacts in your Xero organisation.
This maybe something we look into in the longer term but want to be open it's not in the roadmap at present.
We'll continue to keep a close eye on the support here, and share if there's any progress.
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Louis Trichardt
commented
Can all individuals also be automatically created as a contact, so that a contact does not have to be duplicated, and the individual can then be used, with their contact details only needing to be updated in one place?
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Cheryl Nicholson
commented
XPM syncing with Xero blue when an email address has been updated, currently need to manually update both systems.
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Helen Bell
commented
With the sync turned on as instructed, it doesn't work.
Invoices don't backfill the contact either, so reminders can't go out and no notification of failure is raised, just hidden in the invoice notes.
Xero why are you leaving this so much more inefficient than it needs to be?
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Sam Gray
commented
The admin response here is very confusing. What a strange jumble of dot points.
The article linked says you can choose the option: "Every time client details are updated – Each time you update the details for a client in Practice Manager, the changes are sent to Xero automatically. Select this option if you want both systems to be in sync at all times."
I have that option selected. When I create a Client in XPM, it creates a Contact in Xero Blue. But it does not add the email address to the Xero Blue Contact. Why does the help article and admin response here, suggest it does? -
Sam Gray
commented
Xero Tax should sync the client email address (from Xero Tax/XPM) to the Practice's Blue Xero Organisation.
So simple.
Why does it not? -
Christopher Covino
commented
Any update on this or at least a fix with Zapier? We use XPM as our main source for client creation, infor etc. We have our mailing list in MailChimp synced with our Xero (Blue) via Zapier. When a contact is created in Xero (Blue) it triggers MailChimp to create a new contact. However this doesn't happen due creating a client in XPM doesn't create the contact in Xero properly - no first name, no last name, no email address moved over into Xero from XPM. There has to be a fix to this. The same company not being able to integrate their own CRM?
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David Wang
commented
I see that the feedback was initially raised on 28th April 2022 and acknowledged by the Xero Community Manager on 3rd May 2022. Since then, there has been a strong and ongoing appeal within the Xero community for improvements to the sync function between XPM and Xero Blue. However, Xero has yet to act on this issue. This has become a significant pain point for many Xero clients. Please listen to your loyal users and implement the necessary changes.
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Betsy Kirk
commented
When we update a client's primary contact email address this should automatically update their email address in Xero Blue. Currently all other client info updates instantly if it is changed in XPM (eg: physical address). So why doesn't their changed email address automatically update Xero Blue?
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Alastair Abbott
commented
This is a constant and annoying issue for staff that the details between XPM and Xero blue don't sync well or regularly. Can't understand why, after so many years, this still hasn't been fixed. e.g. contact name from XPM syncing to client last name in Xero blue. We had so many instances of old contact first name still showing next to new contact full name in the last name box that I've stopped using those fields to populate emails to clients.
Address, email for billing, etc there is no reason that these should only update when an invoice is created, or in the case of email not sync at all. -
Vanessa Spargo
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When adding a contact in XPM, there is no separate first and last name field, only one for 'name', where we put the full name (Joseph Bloggs), then add the Salution (Joe). This means that when the contact is synced with Xero the name ends up as Joe Joseph Bloggs (if the ‘Every time client or supplier details are updated’ is enabled in Xero Interface settings). To fix this, Xero suggest manually editing the contact in Xero - this is great if you only have 20 contacts, but for thousands it's just not feasible. Especially if it's just going to sync again the next time something is changed in XPM. I'm not sure how this effects XPM if the edits in Xero are made. How about making the Contact people in Xero and the Contacts in XPM use the same fields?
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Louis Trichardt
commented
All individual clients should automatically be added as a contact and linked. If you change the detail of the individuals details the contact should also change.
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Daniela Depetro
commented
agree, this needs to be looked at immediately. We have had so much trouble with contacts being duplicated etc when we turn on the ‘Every time client or supplier details are updated’ that we have had to switch to 'never' and make the changes manually in Xero. Very frustrating. Xero should sync with XPM and HQ.
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Mariah Urso
commented
The contact details in XPM should be the same contact details in Xero Blue for invoicing purposes. Currently, when we invoice from XPM, we have to also go into Xero Blue and update the email address which is double handling.
This should be a single client record. -
Marelle Isaac
commented
This is incredibly frustrating that if someone changes their email address/we update it in XPM it doesn't sync over to Xero. Email addresses change a lot. It's archaic for this NOT to happen. Looks like people have brought this to your attached years ago. Please fix it along with populating the first and surname fields.
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Troy Tatam
commented
Will the new HQ to XPM client details sync resolve the entire name being incorrectly populated into the surname field and not first name so we dont need to manually go and add First name so it populates in the invoice email salutation?
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Peter Keirs
commented
Client Contacts - Option to Link to a Client Record + Data Synchronisation
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Sue Brown
commented
Have been advised by Xero that only changes to Addresses and names flow from XPM to Xero - not email addresses when this is the main way that invoices are issued from Xero. There is no current project by Xero to correct this so all data changed in XPM in the client/Contact field flows through so currently have to manually change in Xero - so much for all being under the same system!
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Jenny Calvert
commented
when changing an email address or postal address in XPM these changes need to be reflected in Xero otherwise it is simply double handling
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Michelle Geldenhuys
commented
The syncing between XPM and XERO Blue is problematic for us as the XPM only updated its primary email to XERO Blue. We use Xero Blue for our invoices & statements . So the primary contact in XPM is not necessarily the contact/email address we need for invoicing in XERO Blue
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Derryn Orlando
commented
It is a bit of an admin headache, particularly if you are trying to go paperless. We really just want a single source of truth rather than having to dedicate man hours to something that should be a straight forward process.