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    Hi team, we appreciate the added feedback from you on the behaviours from classic that you'd find useful in new invoicing. The invoice number assignment is still a feature that our teams are continuing to monitor closely. Right now, while we don’t have plans for changing the way invoice numbers are assigned, our product teams are considering future improvements - As part of this they are doing some discovery that we’d love to get your contribution to.

    We'd like to invite you to share back though our survey here. Insights from this will help our product teams get a deepened sense of our invoicing users. Thanks

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Yep, it's BS that it's still an issue—like so many other things that should have been fixed by now.

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    Hi everyone, as another step toward improving history of new invoicing you'll find you'll now see an entry when an invoice is sent, and the email address it has been sent to. 

    We appreciate this is something we've heard a fair amount of feedback on and we hope helps in your journey to using new invoicing. 

    We still have more enhancements on the way for history and I'll be back again when more updates land. 

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    @Kelly Munro - Kelly, please see Martin Danger's post below.

    Now, please go to your executives and tell them that, as a result of the response from their support staff, we the Xero customers, take it to mean Xero is happy to be held liable for fraudulently altering financial records (because it is "the intended behaviour of the system") and thus misrepresenting our intentions when the inevitable legal case comes up where a company's financial records will need to be submitted as evidence.

    Furthermore, as a result, Xero will happily cover the legal costs incurred by said company, as it is acknowledged that it is well within Xero's power to ensure that the system works so that the records can indeed reflect an accurate history of those particular books—they just choose not to.

    FYI I have already taken screenshots of this and it will be being made a point of when speaking to Consumer Affairs.

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    After seeing someone's comment regarding file history, this morning, I went into the notes and history of the invoice I just created, more out of morbid curiosity than anything else.

    For context, on each commission run from our Franchisor, my usual routine is just to go to the last invoice I did (for this particular purpose), copy it to a new invoice and then alter what I need, in order to create a new one.

    I discovered that from the moment I created the draft, it was auto-saving each and everything I did...so now, I have 35 lines of utterly superfluous file history that don't contribute anything remotely useful to any sort of auditing history.

    I knew other folks have been complaining about the history in the new system but I didn't realise it was this poxy and thought it had been fixed...maybe it has but that rollout hasn't yet made it to my business?

    My god, what an absolute cesspool this is going to be for larger invoices if it's doing this level of rubbish for a small 12-line invoice...

    To that end, IMO Autosave is poo. Either get rid of it or let us turn it off.

    Not only does it save things that you don't need, it makes the process slower as it regularly won't register the 1st time you click into a field, or the second, or even the third. Copy and pasting data into a field is also a 50% success rate, depending on if you click correctly and Ctrl+v...

    Seriously took me twice as long as it should have to make this invoice.

    Setting aside the colour scheme, the spacing and font size, the controls in hidden places or just moved from where they were previously, I seriously hate "new" invoicing in its current form and capability.

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  5. 344 votes

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    Hi everyone, to front foot some of the recent comments we will not be bringing back classic invoicing. With developments continuing within new invoicing, we do want to let you know that our product teams are highly engaged with your feedback and the ideas for new invoicing on the site.

    We understand there's good interest in being able to add a payment directly from the invoice screen and appreciate the efficiencies expressed by customers in being able to do this. At present we're reviewing this feature and will move the idea across to Under Review. I'll be back to share more on the outcomes. Thanks

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    14 days and counting...Xero is gaslighting its own customers at the same time as charging them more for an inferior product. Time to get consumer affairs involved, start considering legal advice and maybe even speak to the media about this shambles...

    If you haven't already seen this thread, jump on board and add your 2c to the ongoing discussion:

    https://central.xero.com/s/question/0D53m00009lxGKdCAM/new-invoicing-layout?fromEmail=1

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  6. 304 votes

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    Thanks everyone for your feedback on the invoice print option. We know how much our customers value efficient workflows, and appreciate you sharing your thoughts on how the current "Print PDF" button works. 

    For those of you looking for a smoother printing experience, a helpful workaround is to set your browser to automatically open PDFs in your preferred viewer after downloading. This can save you a few clicks in the process.

    In the interest of transparency, a direct print PDF functionality that go through the download step isn't in our development plans.

    You can continue to vote on this idea so if our position changes in the future we will update you all, here. 

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    14 days and counting...Xero is gaslighting its own customers at the same time as charging them more for an inferior product. Time to get consumer affairs involved, start considering legal advice and maybe even speak to the media about this shambles...

    If you haven't already seen this thread, jump on board and add your 2c to the ongoing discussion:

    https://central.xero.com/s/question/0D53m00009lxGKdCAM/new-invoicing-layout?fromEmail=1

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    Thanks for all your feedback here, everyone. The way you add description only lines in new invoicing is a little different to classic and we wanted to explain in hopes it'll help with how you're using new invoicing. 
    When entering a description only line, you can enter text in the description field of the line. If you add detail to any other field the line will be treated as a 'financial' line and you will need to include Qty, Unit price, Account and Tax rate.
    When an inventory item is added this uses the item code field and the line is treated as 'financial', so it's not possible to use inventory items as description only lines in new invoicing atm.
    We appreciate this is how many of you here have been making use of inventory and our product team are closely monitoring the feedback we're getting on this. Though we don't…

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    14 days and counting...Xero is gaslighting its own customers at the same time as charging them more for an inferior product. Time to get consumer affairs involved, start considering legal advice and maybe even speak to the media about this shambles...

    If you haven't already seen this thread, jump on board and add your 2c to the ongoing discussion:

    https://central.xero.com/s/question/0D53m00009lxGKdCAM/new-invoicing-layout?fromEmail=1

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    Hi community, we appreciate all the feedback you've shared on how we can improve new invoicing for your needs.

    In relation to the alert of available credit as raised in this idea, we've identified there are a few situations for Invoice only users where the available credit pop up isn't being shown. This is something we have plans to fix, and while I can't give a specific date on the idea here, we want you to know this is important to us and I'll keep you updated on progress here.

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    14 days and counting...Xero is gaslighting its own customers at the same time as charging them more for an inferior product. Time to get consumer affairs involved, start considering legal advice and maybe even speak to the media about this shambles...

    If you haven't already seen this thread, jump on board and add your 2c to the ongoing discussion:

    https://central.xero.com/s/question/0D53m00009lxGKdCAM/new-invoicing-layout?fromEmail=1

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  9. 32 votes

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    Sorry it's taken a while for us to round back on this idea. Thank you for the depth and insight you provided in unpacking the different aspects of your original post.

    While all of this feedback has been shared with our product teams, it will help to separate these points so we can better review and communicate any updates.

    Regarding the idea here, I've slightly adjusted the title to continue tracking the ability to copy an invoice that's within a locked period. We understand why this is something our customers would like to do, and while it's not on the roadmap at the moment, we'll keep tracking interest and share any updates with you all here.

    The issue of not being able to send an invoice prior to a lock date is not working as designed. It is best to connect with our Xero Support specialists by raising a case…

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Ah, I see. My apologies, I misread your explanation.

    In any case, I still agree, this is yet another example of why New invoicing is not ready for prime time release as it is simply not capable of replicating the system it replaces.

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Yep, I know that Olga.

    My point was who gave Xero the right to dictate to us the how and when things get locked?

    It is us, the business owner, that should be making the decision to lock the period when we are ready for it to be locked...and, by extension, if we need to unlock something to make a correction then that also needs to be our decision, not Xero's.

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    Why are invoices being locked, by Xero, in the first place? Who gave them the right to dictate to us how and when invoices in our businesses get locked out?

    Who the AF do they think they are?

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Yeah, it is a joke that this is still an ongoing and unaddressed issue.

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    That is wonderful Caryn, IF the employee has submitted them to begin with. We want to be able to see the timesheets and edit them while they are still in draft and be able to submit them ourselves if the employee has not. I should not have to hassle an employee on a Sunday night or, on a Monday morning, find myself and the entire pay run held up because one person has not hit the submit button. Xero is making this unnecessarily difficult by not making a simple function available, all the while introducing stuff none of us want (new reports and invoicing) and jacking up the monthly subs.

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Every time someone comes across this it gets support. Obviously, there is a perceived need in your userbase for this functionality. WTH is stopping you @xero?

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    @daniel Yep, totally. Xero's "solution/workaround" is to manually do their payslip...which, of course, totally ignores our own record-keeping requirements.

    I guess they don't care as long as we keep paying their ever increasing subs...

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    The only time they comment is to offer up useless suggestions, totally miss the point of what we are asking for or to tell us to make a (this) suggestion in the ideas/feedback forum for new or additional features...

    The most infuriating part is that they don't have to add anything! All the necessary systems are already in place and they just need to turn on the right switch so we can see draft timesheets!

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    I'm normally all for automating things but, in this instance, it could potentially cause more issues than it solves.

    The main solve here is easy - Xero giving us, payroll managers and owners, the ability to see and edit draft timesheets...It's been an ongoing request/issue for literal years now and, given the recent sub increase (now $99/month), I think this is the least they can do.

    If I'm going to have to pay more each month, I'd much rather have added functionality rather than pretty accounting reports that I don't even use in the first place!

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Yeah, not happy to fix such a simple problem that would alleviate so much hassle for us...but certainly happy enough to up the price again (to nearly $100/month now for a Premium 10 sub!).

    If I even used much of the vaunted added functionality they've put into Xero, I wouldn't be so annoyed...but I simply don't use much more than I did when we got it nearly 9 years ago - which, incidentally, has been the length of time this issue has been a thorn in my side!

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    Nope, sorry Renee, that still misses the whole point of what we are trying to achieve. As the owner/payroll manager, I should not need to wait for the employee to press submit in the first place. I also should not need them to resubmit if it needs to be reverted. I should be able to see the draft, edit the draft and submit it for them if necessary.

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    We want to be able to open and complete the employees timesheet, if it has already been started. I have enough to do without starting again from scratch what the employee may have already done but just not clicked the submit button.

    It is idiotic that, as the owner and payroll manager, that I cannot see an employee's draft timesheets.

    We have been asking for this sort of functionality for years! Xero keeps ignoring us or offering up completely useless alternatives because they don't appear to understand what it is like being the business owner/pay roll admin...ironic, isn't it?

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    This is critical. It is stupid that you cannot add by USI and even more stupid that, when searching by name, you can't see the full name and USI next to it.

    Given that Xero provides the ability to set all this stuff in their software, they should bear some of the responsibility of us being able to set it correctly so we aren't running afoul of the ATO etc.

    I can tell you in no uncertain terms that if I do happen to run afoul of the ATO because something is done incorrectly I'll be damned sure to throw Xero under the bus if the mistake is due to their badly designed or implemented systems.

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    It’s interesting to hear the different ways our users invoice and we appreciate you sharing how we could improve the flow of entry for you here. Being open this isn’t something we have plans for right now, however as our team plan further developments within invoicing, we’d like to engage you all here. To help our product teams get a better understanding of our invoicing users for future improvements, we’ve put a survey together and would love to hear your feedback through this.

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    Hi team, while we don't have immediate plans to change the placement of buttons on new invoicing we're interested in staying close to this feedback and I'll move the idea to Under review for the time being. We'll return to confirm any outcomes. 

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    Jim Morris commented  · 

    They have put this stupid requirement into classic as well.

    WHY DO I NEED TO INPUT A NON-ZERO VALUE IN THE QUANTITY AND UNIT VALUE FIELD FFS!?!?!!?

    Why is it such an issue to let us have a blank info line? What is your problem with that Xero? What about making our jobs easier offends you so much?

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    Hi everyone, we appreciate the interest his idea has received. Introducing the ability to add a discount amount was highly requested by our community. We recognise for customers that discount by % this means you'll need to enter a % symbol where y ou wouldn't have done so before.

    With quite a few items drawing our teams attention at present we want to be upfront that developing a default option for discounts isn't in the pipeline atm. This is something we'll keep reviewing and consider as a future improvement in this space. If there is any change or progress around this I'll let you know on the idea, here.

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    Hi team, while not a 'default' option for this within Xero, you could achieve this using a Custom DOCX branding theme, with an advanced invoice template.

    With the template open in Microsoft Word, you can add the ContactPhysicalAddress merge field where you want their Delivery Address to appear.

    You can add your logo and make any other changes you'd like, before saving the file and uploading it back into your branding theme in Xero.

    You'll then want to select this custom branding theme for your invoices.

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