Batch payments - Ability to include credit notes
Allow the inclusion of Credit Notes in Batch Payments where the total to be paid to a supplier is still positive. This would allow a single batch for a Supplier to match their Statement, particularly where credit notes are not related to specific Bills.
Hi everyone, we appreciate wanting to hear from us on this idea and apologies for not commenting sooner. I can assure you this has not gone unnoticed and internally there have been reviews and discussions for how batch payments can be improved. We have the appetite, but as with all developments this must be weighed up and considered against many other important changes needed in product.
We want to be upfront that developing the ability to include Credit notes in Batch payments has not been planned at this stage.
As some may have seen, we do have work going on around being able to include Credit Notes as part of the reconciliation process. We understand for many on this idea the timing of including credit notes when you’re creating the batch payments is crucial, however we hope that when delivered at least being able to reconcile these more efficiently may improve the process for some customers.
We appreciate wanting to see developments, and while this update doesn’t signal the movement you’re hoping for right now, if there is any progress to share we’ll definitely update all of you through the idea here.
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Chris Stokes commented
Its a feature I really miss from Sage. We have a customer that has high volume but low value invoices. Applying a payment from them takes quite a bit of time, it used to take less than a minute in Sage.
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Kerri Gilbranch commented
This feature is crucial for accurate payment allocation. When you pay a supplier monthly and have a statement with over 100 invoices/credits you want to be able to work down the statement and allocate the invoices and credits to get the same balance due once everything has been selected. A lot of our suppliers like you to send a payment remittance too before the end of the month, and if credit notes havent been selected as part of the payment, the remittance doesnt agree with the allocation of Invoices & Credits. Ive used a few accounting systems, and this is the only one where this isnt possible. I have a client who is considering Xero, but for this reason, i will be recommending they dont move over because it will be too messy and complicated for them to allocate month end payments.
PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS FEATURE ASAP -
Andy Ellis commented
Xero does not allow supplier prepayments to be included in batch payments. When added as a prepayment under spend money, the prepayment shows under bills awaiting payment, but the prepayment cannot be added to a batch payment, the tick box is greyed out. For companies that regularly pay suppliers in advance, the ability to include prepayments in batch payments would be useful.
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Anthony Haworth commented
Following on from the many responses below. As a retail company we are running two large Xero accounts, were we are received 1000s up 1000s of invoices and hundreds of credits each month. Individually applying each credit note either to a random invoices are marking it as taken each pay run consumes so many man hours. Add to that is such a monotonous and drawn out process you can easily make mistakes. Please make this a priority to implement the ability to pay a credit along with invoices. It feels like it should be such a simple thing to implement?
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Claire Parker commented
Expected, but still disappointing Xero.
One wonders what other "important changes needed in product" are .... Stuffing up AP in the same way as you stuffed up AR with New Invoicing? -
Kevin Stansfield commented
i agree with andrew, a credit note is just a negative invoice
therefore why cant we import them and why can they not be added to the batchthere must be a major design flaw in xero, that they built it then somebody said what about credits, and they went Oh SH&T we better tag something on
shame on you xero
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Sandra van Kool commented
Xero is so busy dumbing down their product, that it actually becomes useless accounting software.
Don't start me on their "multi currency" product. Its a joke. -
Lisa Winchester commented
Timely, just as I'm about to pay the suppliers for the month and waste my time allocating credits to random invoices so I can do a batch payment 😡 what a joke. This is a critical accounting feature, sort your priorities out Xero!!
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Mel Fenemore commented
Well this was an expected response!!
Maybe if a little less money was invested into making already functional areas of the programme substandard (lets not get onto a rant about the new invoicing!) then this wouldn't actually be a drama to arrange.
Remittances are all but useless! I guess with the credit notes being part of the reconcilliation process you could wait until the next day when transaction has been pulled through from the bank, reconcile with the incorrect date, then raise a remittance from there? Far from perfect and I am so fed up of trying to find work arounds for a so called accounts package that can't provide the simplest of functions!
Thankfully unlike Kelly has suggested in other responses I have no issue with changes and the only improvement change I can see right now is considering another package - Sage are proving to be incredibly helpful and whilst they were always behind on cloud accounting they appear to have really upped their game!
Inflated costs for a worse product - no thank you! -
Chris Curlett commented
XERO Product Development team must have a KPI of how many customers they drive away because of them! If so they will be doing very well to meeting there KPI.
Don't blame you Shev. Also have a look at Infusion Business Software if you are in NZ or Australia.
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Shev Lizzard commented
I can't believe this still hasn't been implemented. Remittances are always being queried as underpayments because they can't be included in the batch process.
Seriously might go back to Sage at this rate!
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Chris Curlett commented
Andrew, you should be running the Product Development Team or perhaps organising a training session for them.
Certainly, there current manager is well sub-par!
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Andrew J commented
Xero team, you could fix this quickly by allowing a negative value on an invoice.
Then a credit can be processed as a negative value invoice - allowing perfectly acceptable batch payments.
Or you could allow a negative invoice to be called a something a little more normal, like perhaps 'a credit'.
Allowing negative value invoices (aka credits... shhhhh.) would take a fairly short time. If you made this an option that had to be manually turned on in settings, it might take a bit longer... maybe 30 days and 180 cups of coffee. -
Alison Langdon commented
Yet another great reason to look for a proper accounting package. If we just wanted a cashbook, we would have purchased a cashbook!
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Karen Power commented
Why have batch payments at all, if you cannot use them to their fullest, ie applying credits as well? There is no point in having my suppliers Invoices synced with Xero if I cannot pay them in one batch, with credits applied!
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Cindy How commented
This would be a great feature and save a lot of time. Especially when the credit notes do not apply to any of the outstanding invoices.
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Adrian Soden commented
It seems to a complete waste of time logging these ideas, for example, the idea for the ability to include supplier credit notes within a supplier payment (a basic requirement) has been on this board since 2020 and has 680 votes, yet not one response from Xero.
Xero, can you comment on why this is being ignored, or will you just ignore this? If you keep ignoring your customers you are going to lose them. I suggest you spend less on TV adverts and more on software development.
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Paul Berry commented
Thanks Anita,
That looks a really useful link!
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Anita | Botham's of Whitby commented
Yes, Paul Berry, we have moved to using Nook for our batch payments, as in Xero you couldn't bulk send a remittance to all the suppliers in the batch. Clicking each one was just silly. Nook has helped us a lot - but haven't tried it for adding credits yet.
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Adrian Soden commented
Does anyone from Xero even read these messages? I suspect not. We have literally been waiting years for this to be fixed without a single comment from Xero - appalling service.
As an aside,, some of you may want to take a look in the the plugin allocat.io (I am in no way affiliated) - this allows you to automatically apply credits with one click, being in an industry with high volumes of supplier credits this has saved me hours. It works the same as Xero, ie clears down the credits and invoices they have been applied to so not perfect, but just speeds up the manual process in Xero. Ideally Xero would allow you to pay invoices and credits in one batch but this is the best workaround I can find for now, hope this helps some of you.