New Invoicing - Reduce number of steps and clicks
New invoicing has introduced more clicks, taps, steps at almost every level.
Please remove the added friction as it increases processing time.
The "new invoicing" messages are full of comments regarding where these pressure points have been added.
We are paid subscribers, and beta testing/seeking feedback is wonderful, but being forced onto an inferior model is.. suboptimal.
Hi everyone, some time on since my last update I wanted to give you more of an idea of the work we have going on to help reduce the number of steps and actions in new invoicing. Along with the changes mentioned in my last update, we've since released a change to the view of an invoice to shift details back into their own columns (similar to classic), while a small change we know it's improved visibility for some of our customers.
We also have other work in development atm that’ll further help here like a new line item grid when editing your invoice - wrapped up in this we’ll be introducing changes you’ve been asking for like the ability to create a new tracking option or account code without having to navigate away from the invoice, we’re increasing the number of items that you can view from the drop down, and we’ll be bringing back the ability to view the number of stock on hand.
As mentioned in my last post, our team is developing shortcuts for the drop down actions like Approve and Save so you have more ease of selecting the option that's best for you.
We also have some updates coming to;
- The Contact card, so you’ll be able to add more details without having to go to the contact record, like more address lines, ability to look up addresses, and entering an Attention to all items we’ve heard lots of feedback on
- Issue and Due date picking where we’ll make it quicker to simply select a calendar date and we’ll be adding more keyboard shortcuts such as the ability to enter +0 for today’s date
- Ability to drag & drop files that we’re enhancing so you’ll be able to do this anywhere on the invoice rather than a specific area
Again, thank you all for sharing and continuing to let us know the improvements that make a difference for you when working with new invoicing. We'll update you as items I've mentioned above are released.
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Tanya Spence commented
I am a fairly basic user in our organisation Xero file and I have had yet another attempt at the new invoicing:
Firstly the positives
- When you select 'approve and next' it flags that there is a credit for the client
- it shows the credit in the awaiting approval stage - this has been there for a while but it's still a plus as it wasn't in classic
- when the invoice is emailed it now shows the date/time and email address (the main reason I went back to classic)The negatives:
- please please please reduce the white space. I have had to reduce the resolution on the screen to make it in anyway usable
- If I approve and next, then realise there is a credit, I apply that credit and then can't email the invoice unless I go back. very clunky. If I approve so that I can apply the credit, then email the paid invoice, I have to get right out to go back to the invoices to approve. This is similar to classic but something that I was hoping would work smoother, particularly when we are triggered to apply credit on "apply and next"all in all, sorry Xero, it is still an absolute dogs breakfast and I hope to see it flow better soon.
- this layout is so flippin ugly, lines the line doesn't show on the description column, it is ridiculously hard to read and follow
- the email (from the invoice) is not in an obvious spot and too man clicks to get there. -
Michelle Larkin commented
Hi there,
I have just been in to try the new and improved version of the new invoicing product for the 4th time and there have been many improvements but in the new Invoice when you go back to the contact via the contact name from the invoice it creates a new tab to do so instead of just going back to the original contact page as in the classic version. Creating more tabs everytime you go into an invoice is a waste of time. Can this be fixed?
Thanks Michelle
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Glen Nairn commented
Hi Team,
Can I ask why copying a previous invoice (which I do nearly every time) now in the new invoicing forgets the Client name, and so you have to select/enter it? We have multiple clients associated with the same company, which introduces mistakes.
Plus the old fault of forgetting the Account Codes used with the original invoice is lost and uses defaults code which if you are in a hurry you may not notice.
Plus, why does the total column become only partially visible as it is rolled over?
The worst feature is that the History now does not list the full date and time when an Invoice has been emailed. This is extremely important when trying to tell a client where to look in their inbox for the Invoice.The upgrade is not helping us to become faster and more accurate. I would prefer the classic version.
Glen N
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De-Anne Sills commented
I agree, the new invoicing is not an improvement, too much space on the page, lots more clicking and scrolling making entering extremely time consuming!
Switching is not an improvement
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Admin Coates commented
Seems to have removed the "add last items" tab which is critical when doing long complicated bills that involve variable gst amount.
Also, the invoicing doesnt seem to remember email addresses that went together when sending them out. Often when emailing invoices these will go to a head office as well as a certain person.
At this point old invoicing is still far superior to new invoicing and I hope they keep extending it out until everyone is happy. OR leave the classic invoicing in place please.
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Andrew Syme commented
@Rae Stanton. Can you please explain how this is a bug ? It behaves as I would expect. Once a Contact has been entered, the Invoice is auto saved and the Invoice number control is progressed by 1. Until a Contact is entered, the invoice cannot be saved, therefore the invoice number control is NOT updated.
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Sharon Buchanan commented
It is ridiculous that you have to add a contact before uploading a file. We don't know the contact until it's been uploaded. This seriously has to change, as it was in the old version.
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Rae Stanton commented
You still haven't fixed the bug where when I delete an incorrect invoice number, it doesn't then update to the next sequential invoice number, it just puts the one I deleted back in. This is an absolute dealbreaker!! When will it be fixed?? We're getting too close to this becoming a real problem for me, and I presume others!
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Maria Evison commented
All of the above Too many clicks
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Caroline Ryan commented
New invoicing looks ok but today sent over an invoice-approve and email: came up new email on side-not sure really that's needed as you can preview before sending. Please see attached.
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Morgaine Trine commented
The feature where you click on the contact name from the invoice and it automatically creates a new tab is a horror show! It creates so much noise and friction in the process. I love how all the other links in Xero takes you directly to the link in the same tab. If I need another tab, I can right click. But the automatic new tab makes a mess of things.
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Belinda Johnson commented
@Kathy Skinner , it's because we only air our grievances within these hidden threads.
I've suggested a number of times that each of us needs to bombard their social media posts with our complaints.Whenever I have posted on their Facebook posts I'm generally the only person to comment.
THE ONLY PERSON out of thousands of subscribers with complaints.Xero is so focused on attracting new customers to generate even more revenue, that might actually action our requests if they are out there for the world to see.... and judge before signing up and becoming trapped like we are now.
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Lloyd Preston commented
Might be time to go to NZ Hearld and get them to investigate and write in the paper - so that the shareholders know how the developers are destroying the share value of the company - not to mention very likely to lose customers.
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Kathy Skinner commented
@Claire - cause they don't want to admit they have mucked this up and it shouldn't go ahead till it's all sorted so they use the excuse that they are continuing to take in our feed back and make changes but to me it seems they are just being selective on those as well as to what they do first.
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Kathy Skinner commented
Yep and I tried to do one draft invoice for a group of customers like in the classic version and I can't do them. It requires a contact name to be entered not the Group name I want to generate the invoices for which then generates all the draft invoices for them. To me it seems I will have to copy to 30+ Individual customers in a tier taking up even more time when I have over 100 membership invoices in different ranges to generate already.
Unfortunately it seems Xero really doesn't care about all this negative feed back otherwise they would be sorting all these issues out before forcing the new versions on us and hold off increasing the price for the subscriptions.
The same with the GST report which we will be forced to use from end of June - it's totally horrible to look and read and again they don't care otherwise they would hold that as well till it was more user friendly. Bad enough they aren't even including the ability to publish the report but also aren't addressing the layout issue, I found it actually increased the number of pages to print should you need a hard copy by almost double because of the new layout.
Their answer seems to be either close the thread, or as Kelly wrote above asking us to sign up to supply feedback but will they even really consider everything considering there's been so much negative feedback on both new invoicing and GST returns among other things. Plus they ignore things that have been requested for years and instead do what they think is best for their users when that isn't always the case.
Seems all they're interested in is profit now and have such a monopoly now so to speak that their subscribers no longer truly matter as it is difficult when you multiple clients to move them to another.
They've lost their core value from when they started out as being a competitor to other packages out there and who they wanted to represent.
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Claire Parker commented
Hello Xero team - are there any updates on this, please? Xero responses seem to be missing in action since May 17th, meanwhile more and more users are getting more and more frustrated and providing feedback to you about your lousy system upgrade. As the cut-off deadline looms ever closer, surely the progress towards having a useable module increases? I just wonder why you cannot communicate effectively with all these engaged people here who have given their time and effort to test a system that your team obviously have not.
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Anouchka Nagy commented
New invoicing is so much more work!!!
INVOICE ADDRESS - says no address or takes a while to display the address
ADD PAYMENT - I do no quite understand why it's at the top. This means i have to scroll to the very bottom to figure out what other partial payment were made. Also unable to copy and paste an amount into the amount section when adding payments.
EXTRA CLICKS to send an invoice - not convenient
The invoice format is so overwhelming, i personally prefer a more compact view.
Annoyingly slow.
When sending an invoice i need to click "send me a copy" every time whereas the older version i only have to tick the box once and this would apply to all future invoices.
When emailing an invoice unable to modify the recipient email, you will need to remove it and retype it.
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Jacomina Wakeford commented
Bianca, this is an Adobe setting with nothing to do with Xero; open Adobe, and there's a box in settings to untick. I had to google when it first happened to me.
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Bianca Davitt commented
No idea what has changed, but the last couple of days, every time I download an invoice, it saves a copy into my download folder as usual (perfect!) HOWEVER it then also opens the acrobat PDF program and loads an open file on my screen.
This is SO BLIMMING ANNOYING! How can I stop them for auto-opening!?!? I now have to use extra clicks to close the PDF viewer EVERY TIME. Please fix this urgently!
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Jenny Draper commented
Paul Kampe, you're 100% correct!